Erik_
Somewhat-annual test post from the old 486...
Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:14am
68.129.13.241

Looks like the site still works 100% fine on old Netscape 3 on my 486. I was even able to log in without any issues.

Cool. I didn't manage to break anything with my updates since last time. :)

The stat counter on the forum though takes FOREVER to load. I should probably disable it. It's only there because it's been there forever. Usually ad-block just removes it anyway.

Edit: I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm currently on IE 3 and it's much better than Netscape... surprising. Oh yeah, the admin section works as well on these old browsers!

    • Netscape Communicator 4.08 was the version to use. - Puckdropper, Tue Nov 23 2021 4:53am
      Wow, I can still remember that "ship wheel" logo Netscape used. Haven't thought about it in years. It was so welcome to have a choice besides a Microsoft Product. (Says the guy who bought a Microsoft Surface Pro 7. Neat toy, but isn't great at being a laptop.)
      • The ship wheel is actually Netscape 3 - Erik_, Wed Nov 24 2021 3:58am
        Netscape 4 is the lighthouse icon. (At least in Win 3.x) 4.08 is the Netscape version that burned into my head as well as "THE" Netscape version. I have version 3.04 and 4.08 installed on my 486. For some reason 4.08 recently decided to start freezing the whole computer when opening the program. ... more
        • Oh yeah, I forgot about the lighthouse. - Puckdropper, Thu Nov 25 2021 3:51am
          I thought it was just a better resolution ship's wheel. 20 years and it still works fine? Wow, sometimes I felt lucky when it made it a few months. The pen is actually quite nice. What seems to hold things back is the very Mouse-centric UI Most Windows Apps have. Imagine a world without just a mo... more
          • Well, 20 years of minimal use. - Erik_, Fri Dec 03 2021 2:01am
            The forum is one of the few sites that still work with these old browsers. Almost everything is HTTPS (which is a good thing) and nothing on Win 3.x seems to be able to handle it that I can find. So yeah, it's probably only received about a few months worth of use over those 20 years. :) Doesn't... more
            • There's not much that doesn't have an SSL certificate - Puckdropper, Sun Dec 05 2021 4:20am
              There's even a secure way to access my website. It's a good thing, especially with as much snooping as goes on. A mouse-centric UI transfers horribly to a touch screen. There's no "point" it's just "click". If your UI (I'm looking at you, PrusaSlicer) uses keyboard+mouse combinations, it's imp... more
              • Huh... didn't realize that! - Erik_, Tue Dec 07 2021 2:53am
                Also didn't think about mouse actions besides "point & click". Yeah, tracking mouse movement alone, without any other interaction would be pretty difficult on a touch screen... I definitely use mouse & keyboard where possible. My mom has this pen for her android tablet that she uses. I'm guessing... more
                • Some interfaces can adapt pretty easily... - Puckdropper, Wed Dec 08 2021 5:37am
                  Like on Sketchup where they're tracking the mouse it doesn't have to do that to be effective. It just needs to give you a direction and let you go the opposite way (by entering a negative number) if you need to. Those Android pens can be nice, but they're just like a big finger. The Surface Pen... more
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