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Car computers are a little more sane
Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:56am
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I haven't had any problems with them, but I also don't have a large sample size. In fact, a car produced in the last 10 years will probably be much more reliable than one produced 10 years before that, even with the computer systems.

John Deere, the tractor manufacturer, decided to DRM their parts and make them refuse to work (sometimes refuse to work at all) with "non genuine" components. Big lawsuit, so I hope car manufacturers don't ever get the chance to do that.

Right now we've got my mom's minivan. She wasn't using it much (has a Prius that easily doubles and almost triples the gas mileage), so we're enjoying it.

    • Did you end up buying a new (used) minivan? - Erik_, Tue Sep 28 2021 11:34am
      Yeah that sounds like a solid plan. Cars are super expensive these days with the chip shortage or whatever is going on. Once my wife is done with nursing school, we may finally buy a "newer" car. We'll see. Currently, our newest is a 2004. The newest car I've ever owned myself was a 97 and that w... more
      • Car computers are a little more sane- Puckdropper, Fri Oct 01 2021 2:56am
        • I heard about the John Deere fasco before. - Erik_, Thu Oct 07 2021 2:56pm
          I heard that some farmers were opting to keep 40+ year old tractors in service or bringing them back out once their brand new tractor died and they weren't able to fix it without paying a ton of money to John Deere. Definitely an underhanded business model that I too hope doesn't spill over to... more
          • It's only a matter of time before all this computerization - Puckdropper, Sat Oct 09 2021 11:58pm
            goes awry. Ask anyone who works on Windows source code, they'll tell you that it HAS bugs in it and they won't fix it unless certain conditions are met. Can you imagine hitting a bug in your car that the manufacturer won't fix and won't release anything to let someone develop a fix, and your car i... more
            • things could go very bad in that regard. And if the DRMs help the company create extra revenue, they'll probably go that route regardless if it screws over the customers because in the end, if they're large enough, they know they'll win. I'm waiting to see some stupid car thing come out like: ... more
              • Carbon Monoxide Detectors do that - Puckdropper, Tue Oct 12 2021 4:47am
                I guess their sensor is only good for 7 years or so, but it's annoying to have to replace them. Good thing they're competitive market goods so the price is reasonable. Some European countries have interesting "after sale" policies to prevent such nonsense. It's things like parts have to be made... more
                • that expires so it stops working. That makes sense in that regard. Or maybe it's based on average life span? Like, some may work for 15 years but most fail between 6-10?
                  • I think it's something like the item decays when exposed to - Puckdropper, Sun Oct 24 2021 4:29am
                    air, so after 7 years the CO detector just won't work. I'm sure the manufacturers don't mind. Why develop something better if they have a guaranteed revenue stream? (They're also required by law in many places and if you've got gas appliances and don't have them you NEED to get one. Seriously.... more
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