I liked the Toyota Sienna minivan
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:59pm

but it's hard to get in the back with two child seats in the middle. Maybe the child seats are supposed to be in the back, but it's hard enough sometimes to get the 18 month old into the middle seat, I can't imagine trying to get her all the way in the back.

I don't know what we're going to get any more. The kids will be in car seats for a long time, but we'll get to turn #1's around soon. I think that will help a lot, rear facing just takes up so much room.

It might be worth looking at second hand places like Once Upon a Child just to see what's out there. OTOH, you might be getting to the point where a stroller is a nice to have and not a requirement any more. I take #1 with me to the store and don't bring the stroller, it's too much work. I can just carry her in to the cart.

    • So far it's been really good. - Erik_, Tue Aug 31 2021 2:43pm
      I think it's either made for shorter people or it was a design choice to decrease the trunk space required because the push bar is just a tad bit low to be comfortable pushing. I do like that it folds in half with a simple pull of the strap. Our current baby transport is a 2004 Buick so I never... more
      • I liked the Toyota Sienna minivan- Puckdropper, Wed Sep 01 2021 6:59pm
        • Does the back most seat fold down? - Erik_, Tue Sep 07 2021 2:26am
          My father in law has a Hyundai mini van where the rear most seat folds into the floor which is nice to fit extra stuff. (The two middle seats come out completely as well.) Just bringing that up because I guess it depends on how much you need that rear most seat for sitting instead of just some ex... more
          • Yes, they do. We've left one seat folded and used the back - Puckdropper, Sun Sep 26 2021 6:11pm
            door to get in and out. It's sometimes easier to do it that way. It's better now that we've turned #1 around to be forward facing. You're still climbing over her but at least you *can* get in from the side door, unlike when the seat was backwards facing. We'll probably keep it for some time.... more
            • Did you end up buying a new (used) minivan? - Erik_, Tue Sep 28 2021 11:34am
              Yeah that sounds like a solid plan. Cars are super expensive these days with the chip shortage or whatever is going on. Once my wife is done with nursing school, we may finally buy a "newer" car. We'll see. Currently, our newest is a 2004. The newest car I've ever owned myself was a 97 and that w... more
              • Car computers are a little more sane - Puckdropper, Fri Oct 01 2021 2:56am
                I haven't had any problems with them, but I also don't have a large sample size. In fact, a car produced in the last 10 years will probably be much more reliable than one produced 10 years before that, even with the computer systems. John Deere, the tractor manufacturer, decided to DRM their par... more
                • I heard about the John Deere fasco before. - Erik_, Thu Oct 07 2021 2:56pm
                  I heard that some farmers were opting to keep 40+ year old tractors in service or bringing them back out once their brand new tractor died and they weren't able to fix it without paying a ton of money to John Deere. Definitely an underhanded business model that I too hope doesn't spill over to... more
                  • It's only a matter of time before all this computerization - Puckdropper, Sat Oct 09 2021 11:58pm
                    goes awry. Ask anyone who works on Windows source code, they'll tell you that it HAS bugs in it and they won't fix it unless certain conditions are met. Can you imagine hitting a bug in your car that the manufacturer won't fix and won't release anything to let someone develop a fix, and your car i... more
                    • things could go very bad in that regard. And if the DRMs help the company create extra revenue, they'll probably go that route regardless if it screws over the customers because in the end, if they're large enough, they know they'll win. I'm waiting to see some stupid car thing come out like: ... more
                      • Carbon Monoxide Detectors do that - Puckdropper, Tue Oct 12 2021 4:47am
                        I guess their sensor is only good for 7 years or so, but it's annoying to have to replace them. Good thing they're competitive market goods so the price is reasonable. Some European countries have interesting "after sale" policies to prevent such nonsense. It's things like parts have to be made... more
                        • that expires so it stops working. That makes sense in that regard. Or maybe it's based on average life span? Like, some may work for 15 years but most fail between 6-10?
                          • I think it's something like the item decays when exposed to - Puckdropper, Sun Oct 24 2021 4:29am
                            air, so after 7 years the CO detector just won't work. I'm sure the manufacturers don't mind. Why develop something better if they have a guaranteed revenue stream? (They're also required by law in many places and if you've got gas appliances and don't have them you NEED to get one. Seriously.... more
                            • Here in NY I believe we're suppose to have both... - Erik_, Mon Nov 01 2021 2:27am
                              by law. Smoke detectors and CO detectors. When we bought our house like 6+ years ago the previous owner was like "I didn't have time to install these, but here's a box with a bunch of detectors to install". We agreed to them and some how having the detectors available in the box like that was ... more
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