Puckdropper
Uppababy Vista
Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:43pm
73.51.27.215

If you get to kid #2, avoid this thing. It's high quality, well built, but requires adding $40 worth of parts to make it work with two kids, then when your kid grows you need another $200 to put the second seat in.

Then you don't get any of the nice features of a Graco unit: parent tray, kids trays. They're optional extras... On a thousand dollar stroller.

It's like buying a new car and paying extra for the windows to roll down.

    • that folds up so you can easily put it in the trunk. It also has the click on baby carrier as well as the older child sitting seat. So far it's been perfect. No option to add a second kid to it if we needed to though but I guess we would probably get a second stroller at that point? Or maybe #1 will... more
      • We started out with Graco too - Puckdropper, Sun Aug 29 2021 2:20am
        Good piece of kit, and it feels like it's actually designed by people who use them. Trying to put two strollers in a Prius, though, just won't happen. That's why we went with the Vista, it looked like it would actually fit in the Prius with a reasonable amount of "unclicking" (disassembly.) A big... more
        • So far it's been really good. - Erik_, Tue Aug 31 2021 2:43pm
          I think it's either made for shorter people or it was a design choice to decrease the trunk space required because the push bar is just a tad bit low to be comfortable pushing. I do like that it folds in half with a simple pull of the strap. Our current baby transport is a 2004 Buick so I never... more
          • I liked the Toyota Sienna minivan - Puckdropper, Wed Sep 01 2021 6:59pm
            but it's hard to get in the back with two child seats in the middle. Maybe the child seats are supposed to be in the back, but it's hard enough sometimes to get the 18 month old into the middle seat, I can't imagine trying to get her all the way in the back. I don't know what we're going to get ... more
            • Does the back most seat fold down? - Erik_, Tue Sep 07 2021 2:26am
              My father in law has a Hyundai mini van where the rear most seat folds into the floor which is nice to fit extra stuff. (The two middle seats come out completely as well.) Just bringing that up because I guess it depends on how much you need that rear most seat for sitting instead of just some ex... more
              • Yes, they do. We've left one seat folded and used the back - Puckdropper, Sun Sep 26 2021 6:11pm
                door to get in and out. It's sometimes easier to do it that way. It's better now that we've turned #1 around to be forward facing. You're still climbing over her but at least you *can* get in from the side door, unlike when the seat was backwards facing. We'll probably keep it for some time.... more
                • Did you end up buying a new (used) minivan? - Erik_, Tue Sep 28 2021 11:34am
                  Yeah that sounds like a solid plan. Cars are super expensive these days with the chip shortage or whatever is going on. Once my wife is done with nursing school, we may finally buy a "newer" car. We'll see. Currently, our newest is a 2004. The newest car I've ever owned myself was a 97 and that w... more
                  • Car computers are a little more sane - Puckdropper, Fri Oct 01 2021 2:56am
                    I haven't had any problems with them, but I also don't have a large sample size. In fact, a car produced in the last 10 years will probably be much more reliable than one produced 10 years before that, even with the computer systems. John Deere, the tractor manufacturer, decided to DRM their par... more
                    • I heard about the John Deere fasco before. - Erik_, Thu Oct 07 2021 2:56pm
                      I heard that some farmers were opting to keep 40+ year old tractors in service or bringing them back out once their brand new tractor died and they weren't able to fix it without paying a ton of money to John Deere. Definitely an underhanded business model that I too hope doesn't spill over to... more
                      • It's only a matter of time before all this computerization - Puckdropper, Sat Oct 09 2021 11:58pm
                        goes awry. Ask anyone who works on Windows source code, they'll tell you that it HAS bugs in it and they won't fix it unless certain conditions are met. Can you imagine hitting a bug in your car that the manufacturer won't fix and won't release anything to let someone develop a fix, and your car i... more
                        • things could go very bad in that regard. And if the DRMs help the company create extra revenue, they'll probably go that route regardless if it screws over the customers because in the end, if they're large enough, they know they'll win. I'm waiting to see some stupid car thing come out like: ... more
                          • Carbon Monoxide Detectors do that - Puckdropper, Tue Oct 12 2021 4:47am
                            I guess their sensor is only good for 7 years or so, but it's annoying to have to replace them. Good thing they're competitive market goods so the price is reasonable. Some European countries have interesting "after sale" policies to prevent such nonsense. It's things like parts have to be made... more
                            • that expires so it stops working. That makes sense in that regard. Or maybe it's based on average life span? Like, some may work for 15 years but most fail between 6-10?
                              • I think it's something like the item decays when exposed to - Puckdropper, Sun Oct 24 2021 4:29am
                                air, so after 7 years the CO detector just won't work. I'm sure the manufacturers don't mind. Why develop something better if they have a guaranteed revenue stream? (They're also required by law in many places and if you've got gas appliances and don't have them you NEED to get one. Seriously.... more
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