I have known Bob a long time and respect his considerable ability to research and present the results I think the two references he found about Wyatt confronting Clay Allison in 1902 and 1905 to reflect his greatness. I wish I was as good at this as hhe is.
Joyces interest in this field is amazing in her dedication. She regularly asks good questions that go unanswered. I think she points out the other side pretty well.
Thank you for assuring everyone that we have been having a great time haggling these points for years, and that we are indeed good friends and will manage to get you straightened out somehow or other... more
We are all friends just exercising our — Tom Gaumer,Tue Aug 23 2022 3:26
Sorry for the short post; got so excited about SOMEone's finding a confrontation between Clay & Wyatt in 1902 & 1905, I hit the wrong key.... In FACT, Clay Allison died in a horse-drawn wagon accident... more
Sharon if I remember right? It was 25+ years before Lake thus pretty much confirming the confrontation took place, Bob will likely put the info up again if you missed it. Keep Laughing To... more
Here's a thhread on different Wyatt and Clay (and Bat) articles. The most important is the one discovered by Chris Penn written by Judge Ed Colborn and published in 1896 before Wyatt's article of the same... more
Bob, The original article for the Colborn account was published by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on March 3, 1896. The Chicago Chronicle published the account on April 26, 1896. The account Chris Penn... more
If DeArment's research is correct neither Bat nor Wyatt were in Dodge when Clay "treed" the town. Bat was in Kansas City and Wyatt was 4 miles off fighting fires with other deputies.
Thee's been a lot of research done since DeArment wrote Bat's bio, and a lot of it was done by people who learned how to resarch Western characters by emulating DeArment's methods. I don't have DeArment's... more
DeArment has the date as Sep. 17 or 18, 1878. Did the "Rogers" factor the Cheyenne renegade activities into their timeline? DeArment sets his dates for the event and Siringo's arrival on this and... more
Erik, Roger Myers has not passed on. I said he "is now absent" as in absent from this board. It is my understanding that he recently had an article published in the WWHA Jornal. I wish he would begin to... more
I went throgh th archives to find Roger's and/or Roger's explanation of how they agreed on the date of Allison showing up in Dodge City as September 24, 1878 and not the 19th, as Roger Myers first thought.... more
I realize the duo Roger could not pick Sept. 19, 1878, for the imbroglio with Clay Allison, since Bat did not arrive home from attending the Kansas City Fair until Sept. 23. The K. C. Fair commenced on... more
To the best of my memory, they arrivd at the date of September 24th because, partially, of references to he Dull Knife raid in the newspapers and an initial misunderstanding of when Cape Willinghm, who... more
I really don't remember, but it is possible that the two Rogers researched the news that Cape Willigham told Siringo about the previous day's events in Meade City and the near the Crooked Creek store.... more