Joyce A. Aros
Hi Bob/ no argument there, but...
Mon Aug 01, 19:43


...my concern was that the DA , Price, sloughed it off so casually. His references to witnesses that were not named bother me. Even though we now understand that testimony or reference information by men like Frank Vaughn and even Bob Paul may have been recorded much later, still they were men of some character and so why has their input more or less been ignored?

Price claimed at the time he questioned witnesses and found no reason for the slightest suspicion. Does that not strike you as an irresponsible statement; should not we wonder why, if he actually questioned the witnesses which could only be the men we believe to have been out there, then how could he reject their comments as of no reason for any suspicion at all? Circumstantial evidence actually has value in court today as yesterday.

As for Mrs. Slaughter's account, it really doesn't make much sense. What would be the advantage in Ike Clanton shadowing her and her husband for several miles? There is no recorded
bad dealings between them other than Slaughter having a short fuse.

And the record states that Slaughter was sure it was Holliday on the Dunbar horse who passed him and his wife on the way to Tombstone.

  • Re: One has to wonder...Bob Cash, Mon Aug 01 18:03
    Joyce, I know this will shock you, but I have a different take on this matter. I don't believe that any of the witnesses you refer to were named as such in any contemporary account. I think all of these... more
    • Hi Bob/ no argument there, but... — Joyce A. Aros, Mon Aug 01 19:43
      • In many people'sButch Badon, Sun Sep 25 15:55
        opinion Lyttleton Price did not have the intestinal fortitude to prosecute the bad men of Cochise. Somebody please cite the cases of bad guys of Copchise prosecuted by Lyttleton Price. Meanwhile, I'll... more
      • Re: Hi Bob/ no argument there, but...Bob Cash, Tue Aug 02 14:39
        Joyce, you state: "...my concern was that the DA , Price, sloughed it off so casually. His references to witnesses that were not named bother me. Even though we now understand that testimony or reference... more
        • Bob, refer to my 'clear up my garble' postt...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Aug 02 17:28
          ...and maybe I will make more sense. There seem to be several differing accounts of Slaughter's recognizing Holliday and I have not heard anything anywhere about Ike Clanton following him to rob... more
          • Where did Vaughn's accounts appear and when?
            • Bob/ Vaughn's accounts.....Joyce A. Aros, Wed Aug 03 8:57
              ...Frank Vaughn is an interesting man, apparently. His record as an Arizona pioneer at a time when everyday life became an opportunity for greater things for almost everyone who wanted to progress is a... more
              • Re: Bob/ Vaughn's accounts.....Bob Cash, Fri Aug 05 12:33
                I find nothing in my research of Frank Vaughn to suggest he was anything but an upstanding citizen. However, as I pointed out in a previous post, many "eyewitnesses" of Tombstone events apparently related... more
                • Not only Vaughn...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Aug 06 4:30
                  Integrity is crucial in an investigation, as you say, but my concern from the beginning is why did the DA write it all off with a flip "...not even a suspicion..." It appears that even with substantial... more
                  • Re: Not only Vaughn...Bob Cash, Fri Aug 12 15:28
                    "Integrity is crucial in an investigation, as you say, but my concern from the beginning is why did the DA write it all off with a flip '...not even a suspicion...' It appears that even with substantial... more
                    • Bob, darned if we aren't going to...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Aug 16 13:42
                      ...disagree again! I hope I am not being terribly obstinate, but my sense of fair play does extend to the cowboys a little more than those sleazy Earps. You might find I have little respect for the... more
                      • Re: Bob, darned if we aren't going to...Bob Cash, Sat Aug 20 15:09
                        First of all, Joyce, I am 72, so I am not and hve not accused anybody of dementia. I am saying that 40 or 50 years after an event memories can get hazy and they can become ultra-sharp, even remembering... more
                        • Well, shucks!...Joyce A. Aros, Sat Aug 20 16:50
                          ...you put up a good argument and I didn't mean to suggest you accused anyone of dementia; just that youngsters often view us as on the verge. I can't argue with you on this particular presentation; I... more
                          • Shucks...sharon Cunningham, Tue Aug 23 7:32
                            Just give yourself 8 more years and you'll be defensive!!
      • Bob/ just to clear up my garble...Joyce A. Aros, Tue Aug 02 7:08
        ...We are talking about the District Attorney questioning witnesses on or about July 9, 1881, not 40 years later. His conclusion, after interviewing men such as Frank Vaughn and John Slaughter, that "...there... more