gobs
Wild West Remembrances by Adelia Earp Edwards & Earl Chafin
Sun Jun 06, 7:16

Kenny ... is most of the material you cite (letters, etc) in this book? ... never found a copy ... despite your endorsement of otherwise unassailable facts, does it mean Adelia was directly involved? ... who is the mysterious Conrad? ... even Gary Roberts admitted to Anne Collier [below] that several facts were probably traded information between authors who were completely unaware that they were being played ... your pal, Scott Dyke systematically distanced Boyer from this material [see “Adelia Earp’s Dubious Memoir” by Scott Dyke, with a sidebar by Bob Palmquist, in the October 2016 issue of Wild West] ... this gives me the slightest of suspicion that Boyer [and maybe Chafin] were involved ... didn't Boyer occasionally adopt an air of mock sophistication by employing English phrases like nutter and twit? ... did the Colton Public Library collection even exist and why would they be donated there by someone of some little Scottish heritage? ... as I said, this doesn't contradict any facts, just the original sources ... take care ... Michael

Scott Dyke distances themselves: I can’t say the obit is his, considering the fact I have a photo of him and his young daughter, while the obit lists three sons. Cruickshanks is not an uncommon name in Great Britain.

Joyce on Cruickshanks: "he was so unreliable at times, often concerned I might be a 'nutter,' I was afraid to use some of the material. A lot of detailed census information for the Sulphur Springs Valley, if I remember. One ranch family shared their young daughters with Ike and Phin Clanton, I believe. Not unusual at the time. Just common-law co-habitation; but you hear little of the cowboys' romantic life.
P.S. Cruickshanks seemed to be a little overly interested in some of the more risque behaviour of the Earps and their ladies which made me a little uncomfortable as to reliability."

Anne Collier: "I have also read the entire Rasch file, among a few other files that also contain Cruickshank's letters. what I do recall, very well, is my impression that David would ask one author questions, which he received, then turnaround and write another author telling him of his "research." Most of the time it seemed he traded, bartered if you will, information between authors who were unaware this doing. Each author felt he was helping them, when in turn, they were all helping him."

Others on here ...

"What I was told was that T. J. [sic] was one of the persons interviewed by Conrad. No one, other than possibly David Cruikshanks, has actually seen the original document by Conrad"

S. D. Allen's 1930's letter to David Cruikshanks' father sharing Allen's father's description of Wyatt arresting and buffaloing a fellow Texas cowboy in Dodge City. While I have hunted for an S.D. Allen (father or son, on the chance that the letter writer was a junior) on and off for years, I haven't found anything conclusive, but, inspired by this thread, just googled some tax records for Hood County, Texas in 1880 that show an S.D. Allen listed but no information on taxes owed or description of his property. That might indicate he was away, perhaps on a cattle drive to Dodge City (?).

“The late Al Turner of Tombstone claimed for years to have a copy of a letter by Adelia Earp Edwards in which she said that Warren’s return home was to recover from a gunshot wound sustained in a skirmish on the border. While this is plausible-and I mention the letter, with qualifications, in a footnote in WETB – the letter has not been located since Al’s death. The significant bulk of the Turner material is in a private collection in Arizona, and the letter was not in Turner’s collection when it was sold.” So, as of today, so far as the “letter” is concerned, there’s no there there.

John Ringo's death, the alleged role of Lew Cooley: While there seems to be the widespread notion that Cooley worked for Santa Bonita rancher Henry Hooker, as far as I can tell, this idea comes from only one source. David Cruickshanks, a British researcher, claims to have a manuscript written by E. J. Cornelison, a real Tombstone resident of the early eighties. In that manuscript, Cornelison claims that Cooley was employed by Henry Hooker specifically to deal with rustlers in an extra-judicial manner, and that many in Tombstone believed he was Ringo's killer.
Boyer apparently used the Cornelison story that Cooley killed Ringo at the behest of Fred Dodge.

    • Re: Mum's the word on the Earp end.Bob Cash, Sat Jun 05 6:12
      Kenny, I think all this info is intriguing and informed speculation is important in figuring out what actually happened in Cochise County, but I think you are overstating your case here. In your f... more
      • Wild West Remembrances by Adelia Earp Edwards & Earl Chafin — gobs, Sun Jun 06 7:16
        • Both Gee & Whiz! [nm] (nm)gobs, Sun Jun 06 11:03
          • I have the Monahan book somewhere ...gobs, Tue Jun 08 2:17
            but is much of Adelia's information on dates and places in there? I followed in Chris Penn's trail and was told there was a member named David H Cruickshanks (father or son?) of the English Western... more
            • Thanks againgobs, Tue Jun 08 3:57
              Unfortunately, this and three other similar links have no cached versions ... don't suppose there's any salient information in there .... will dig out her book ... Don't know what the EEA is, but ... more
              • Therein lies Bedlam [sidebar]gobs, Tue Jun 08 6:36
                No, a blanket EU Ban ... beware of irony ahead ... thanks Uncle Sam for lots of really positive leads on Google Images ... I have seen the real photo before ... I even have the book ... somewhere O... more
      • Re: AdeliaBob Cash, Sat Jun 05 17:36
        You have done this field a great service with your study of Adelia's interview and you are, in large part, responsible for convincing me of its authenticity. Adelia's quote about Warren doing mor... more
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