I don't think Frank did try to get the rifle, or get on the horse, but as I've said about Tom, even if armed with a pistol (and with only five shots, according to your informd opinion) if you are up against 4 armed assailants you might want something with a little more fire power and more bullets.
Billy was described as standing and firing by Coleman, Hatch, and Lucas and as firing as as he slid to the ground by Fuller and Lucas. Only Claiborne claimed he did not draw or fire until he as on the ground.
...one has to ask the logical question; why would Frank be attempting to get the rifle out of the scabbard when he already had a gun in his hand? Distance would not be the need in this situation.
Eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable. How long was the gunfight? Approximately 30 seconds. Give or take. How long was Fuller's testimony? The individual testimonies were longer than the fight itse... more
...of the brothers wanting a rifle when the threat was so close. The convenience and the lighter weight of the handgun would be the safety factor if there was such a thing. Using up valuable energy to... more
The fly in the buttermilk is that you're suggesting that in the extreme heat of the moment the participants were thinking logically, and that, as bullets began flying, they would weigh the advantages ... more
...extreme heat of the moment, they are not thinking at all; simply reacting instinctively to save themselves. There is probably no moment in which they gave anyone else a thought. Fear and shock can ... more
There are many combat stories of people performing illogical or unlikely actions understress. I know of a police officer who entered a bank during a robbery, holding a shotgun, but when pressed into s... more
...so true. I think your policemen probably instinctively went for the pistol with his right hand, instinctevly,as it was likely on his right side and that was almost a natural reaction based on years... more
"If I can recall somewhat, Coleman described Billy as firing two or three shots from a crouching position, steadying the gun on his knee. That doesn't sound like standing."
Joyce, you are right, yo... more
...Bob, I went back to Coleman in the Inquest to sharpen up my dimmer switch. I am still having trouble with him and his delivery.
He described himself and Billy Allen as walking along Fremont to t... more
Apparently you did not read to the end of my post the same way you did not read to the end of Coleman's testimony because you fail to respond to my quoting him as saying, "I DO NOT THINK THAT BILLY CL... more
Bob ... my usual excuse of not having my books to hand [and a short term memory], but did the autopsy note any wound to Billy's wrist? ... I've always presumed that Billy dropped his gun and went down... more
...to dispel all other testimony regarding the original shots fired into Billy's gun hand when he was standing with his hands up and out, shots fired by Morgan and then Virgil, according to Virgil?
Joyce, can you please quote directly "all the other testimony regarding the original shots fired into Billy's gun hand"? Also, please quote Virg's testimony where he mentions Morg shooting, as I don't... more