In Turner Wes Fuller says that seven or eight shots were fired by the Earps before Frank drew his pistol-page 71. On page 72 he talks about Frank fooling with a horse and trying to get the rifle until... more
Your answer is correct and your prize is not from me but from Steve Gatto. His Tombstone Historical Page has Fuller's testimony from either the Nugget or the Epitaph:
Many thanks, Bob! Somehow I did not know about Steve Gatto's Tombstone Historical Page. I will bookmark it and drench myself in its wonderfulness. It will be great not to have to rely on Turner's crum... more
If you look closer, Jerry, I'm afraid we'll all have to rely on Turner's crumbs for almost everything past Wes's testimony. Steve, for some reason, did not complete the painfully boring, time consumin... more
After actually starting to read Steve Gatto's page, it did appear to be familiar, especially those brown lines that run thru the testimony. I probably forgot about it because it wasn't complete. Also... more
Trying to make sense of Fuller's testimony is a real mission impossible. Going by what's in Turner "He tells of the space between Fly's and other building, and says he saw Tom McLaury there" it sounds... more
Wes is a hard one to understand, some of his testimony being close to nonsensical. He admits he had been drinking heavily during the two previous days, but says he had not drunk a thing by 2PM on the ... more
Thanks, Bob ... I'm getting the hang of this malarkey ... loathe as I am to mount [from whatever side] this eternal merry-go-round, certain things drive me to it ... resorting to mild character assas... more
...one has to ask the logical question; why would Frank be attempting to get the rifle out of the scabbard when he already had a gun in his hand? Distance would not be the need in this situation.
Eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable. How long was the gunfight? Approximately 30 seconds. Give or take. How long was Fuller's testimony? The individual testimonies were longer than the fight itse... more
I don't think Frank did try to get the rifle, or get on the horse, but as I've said about Tom, even if armed with a pistol (and with only five shots, according to your informd opinion) if you are up a... more
...of the brothers wanting a rifle when the threat was so close. The convenience and the lighter weight of the handgun would be the safety factor if there was such a thing. Using up valuable energy to... more
The fly in the buttermilk is that you're suggesting that in the extreme heat of the moment the participants were thinking logically, and that, as bullets began flying, they would weigh the advantages ... more
...extreme heat of the moment, they are not thinking at all; simply reacting instinctively to save themselves. There is probably no moment in which they gave anyone else a thought. Fear and shock can ... more
There are many combat stories of people performing illogical or unlikely actions understress. I know of a police officer who entered a bank during a robbery, holding a shotgun, but when pressed into s... more
...so true. I think your policemen probably instinctively went for the pistol with his right hand, instinctevly,as it was likely on his right side and that was almost a natural reaction based on years... more
"If I can recall somewhat, Coleman described Billy as firing two or three shots from a crouching position, steadying the gun on his knee. That doesn't sound like standing."
Joyce, you are right, yo... more
...Bob, I went back to Coleman in the Inquest to sharpen up my dimmer switch. I am still having trouble with him and his delivery.
He described himself and Billy Allen as walking along Fremont to t... more
Apparently you did not read to the end of my post the same way you did not read to the end of Coleman's testimony because you fail to respond to my quoting him as saying, "I DO NOT THINK THAT BILLY CL... more
Bob ... my usual excuse of not having my books to hand [and a short term memory], but did the autopsy note any wound to Billy's wrist? ... I've always presumed that Billy dropped his gun and went down... more
...to dispel all other testimony regarding the original shots fired into Billy's gun hand when he was standing with his hands up and out, shots fired by Morgan and then Virgil, according to Virgil?
Joyce, can you please quote directly "all the other testimony regarding the original shots fired into Billy's gun hand"? Also, please quote Virg's testimony where he mentions Morg shooting, as I don't... more