Tom Gaumer
Keefe is the only person who claims a third gun existed
Sun Apr 25, 14:33


There are two Colts according to the Coroner and presented to the court by him One was Billy's and one was Franks and were found near them.

Keefe is the only person who claims there was a third gun and it was not a Colt but a distinctively different S&W. The two Colts are present and accounted for.

Thus the third "missing' gun is the S&W. Keefe identifies it as not missing but says he saw it a few minutes earlier in the Coroners office and then in the courtroom.
Then he identifies it on a table in the courtroom. Keefe is is then asked to examine it as to the maker and states it is a Colt. This makes the point Keefe does not know the difference and his claim of seeing a S&W and seeing the Colts that actually exist. Keefe's story about a missing S&W comes crashing down.

Fellehy, a witness at the Coroners hearing a few days earlier says about Tom, "He still held his pistol in his hand, but did not see it go off after he had fell." So the gun should still be in his hand or right near him if it was in his hand as he lay on the ground. Keefe said there was no gun in the area around Tom.

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    • Tom ... I think the point Kenny is making is that the third gun had disappeared and he covered his tracks by pleading ignorance ... I could also be wrong ... my earlier point was that the probable pla... more
      • Keefe is the only person who claims a third gun existed — Tom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 14:33
        • How else can we expand you mind?K.t.K., Sun Apr 25 21:16
          I explained to you over and over the foolishness of taking Keefe's testimony at face value - only in regards the pressure hanging over him, ever since Tom Fitch first toyed with him about ONE of two l... more
          • You have theories about why KeefeTom Gaumer, Mon Apr 26 2:25
            KtK said this or that but wish to ignore what he actually said. There is no missing S&W as Keefe saw it in the Coroners office and on the table in court. the only problem is that he was wrong ... more
        • Double Bluffgobs, Sun Apr 25 15:21
          Tom ... so there was a third gun and he was lying, or there was no third gun and he was lying, or under questioning, he played the deluded fool ... why, I wonder? ... bests
          • Right. We should all wonder.Tom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 16:43
            gobs Also we need another option. He was a fool and proved it in court. Keep Laughing Tom
            • And A Glutton For Punishmentgobs, Mon Apr 26 1:58
              Like me ... I think I read somewheres that Ruben F. Coleman was the dummy that made stuff up ... be careful out there I've seen a few recent quotes ... and I've short term memory loss [like a few "... more
            • Re: Right. We should all wonder.K.t.K., Sun Apr 25 20:37
              Your total ignorance about the history of Tom Keefe blocks you from simple logic. To take Keefe's testimony at face value -- in regards the pressure he was put under by both T. Fitch and L. Price -- i... more
              • You take Keefes testimony at face valueTom Gaumer, Mon Apr 26 2:47
                ktk when he claims there is a S&W. You just deny what else he said, that you don't like, because it proves there was no S&W. You are a tragic victim of Keefe's delusions and yours about what yo... more
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