It has everything to do with it.
Sun Apr 25, 11:54

Precisely as Lee Silva said: "Simple logic."
Long before kindergarten kids know about "secreting away" items, whether other kid's toys, cookies, etc., etc.
Been there done that.
When somebody takes something away and nobody sees the deed, its called a secret. Hello!? Anybody home?!

    • The point has nothing to do withTom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 11:36
      Ktk whether S&W made a certain gun or not. The question is was such a gun present at the scene of the gunfight. Grubbers qualifications to confirm such guns were made by S&W is unquestioinable and... more
      • It has everything to do with it. — K.t.K., Sun Apr 25 11:54
        • You are all theory and speculation-non factsTom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 12:13
          Who do you think took the gun away? Keefe identified it in the Coroners Office and in the Courtroom. Then he was forced to admit the gun he thought was a S&W was a colt. Facts are such ugly things... more
    • None of them examined the S & Wgobs, Sat Apr 24 2:10
      None of them examined the S & W with three empties! You should have explained that before and more clearly for the thinkers among us Still taking in Jim's fine ... will get back Incidentally,... more
      • ...won't mention is his penchant for playing devil's advocate. Years ago he and "Grubber" and I were all on the EXACT same page with Tom McLaury. Emailing in concert - the whole none yards. Fun and g... more
      • According to Keefe the S&W was recoveredTom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 12:23
        gobs Keefe, the only one who claimed to have seen a S&W saw what he thought was a S&W in the Coroners Office at lunch time and identified it in court a few minute later. Then he was asked to look mo... more
        • Tom ... I think the point Kenny is making is that the third gun had disappeared and he covered his tracks by pleading ignorance ... I could also be wrong ... my earlier point was that the probable pla... more
          • gobs There are two Colts according to the Coroner and presented to the court by him One was Billy's and one was Franks and were found near them. Keefe is the only person who claims there was a ... more
            • How else can we expand you mind?K.t.K., Sun Apr 25 21:16
              I explained to you over and over the foolishness of taking Keefe's testimony at face value - only in regards the pressure hanging over him, ever since Tom Fitch first toyed with him about ONE of two l... more
              • You have theories about why KeefeTom Gaumer, Mon Apr 26 2:25
                KtK said this or that but wish to ignore what he actually said. There is no missing S&W as Keefe saw it in the Coroners office and on the table in court. the only problem is that he was wrong ... more
            • Double Bluffgobs, Sun Apr 25 15:21
              Tom ... so there was a third gun and he was lying, or there was no third gun and he was lying, or under questioning, he played the deluded fool ... why, I wonder? ... bests
              • Right. We should all wonder.Tom Gaumer, Sun Apr 25 16:43
                gobs Also we need another option. He was a fool and proved it in court. Keep Laughing Tom
                • And A Glutton For Punishmentgobs, Mon Apr 26 1:58
                  Like me ... I think I read somewheres that Ruben F. Coleman was the dummy that made stuff up ... be careful out there I've seen a few recent quotes ... and I've short term memory loss [like a few "... more
                • Re: Right. We should all wonder.K.t.K., Sun Apr 25 20:37
                  Your total ignorance about the history of Tom Keefe blocks you from simple logic. To take Keefe's testimony at face value -- in regards the pressure he was put under by both T. Fitch and L. Price -- i... more
                  • You take Keefes testimony at face valueTom Gaumer, Mon Apr 26 2:47
                    ktk when he claims there is a S&W. You just deny what else he said, that you don't like, because it proves there was no S&W. You are a tragic victim of Keefe's delusions and yours about what yo... more
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